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Lotus is not our map anymore

Pabotokki's avatarPabotokki@Pabotokki• 25/08/2025

Lotus is not our map anymore

I love my team. Im happy with them. I understand that we can't win ever match but

But something needs to change.

Its not aim or players. Its the fact that we still have same stats for lotus or we keep using same comps and making same mistakes.

Other teams are studying on us and finding our weak points. That's why we started losing more and more.

We need new strats. I dont know maybe double duelist with Alfa on every map or no duelist. But something different.

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NekoSloan@NekoSloan• 01/09/2025
Loading...Couldn’t agree more, all teams have a book on how FNC play lotus by now
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FrankyVCT Champions 2024@Franky• 31/08/2025
Loading...I think we just played bad overall this playoff. I would not take any of those game to judge our level
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RenoNiiChanModerator@RenoNiiChan• 31/08/2025
Loading...I agree, however i think its also due to fact we played alot in the past couple months with little time to practice. While out performance on many maps have gone down its really important to know we can only cook so many strats. And with little to downtime since stage 1, toronto, ewc & stage 2 there wasnt really time to cook new stuff that was cooked good. Just to compare: Giant X played 21 matches (roughly 52 maps) TH played 28 matches (roughly 70 maps) We played 31 matches (roughly 75 maps) So fatigue is not only hitting us atm
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yahyayyy@yahyayyy• 01/09/2025
Loading...@RenoNiiChan Let me give you some more comparisons and shut down all this Fatigue and "No Rest" bs. G2 has won all the three regionals while making in the finals of the first Masters and then in Lower Semifinal of Masters Toronto. SEN has made longer runs. Keep in mind PRX, Won Toronto, Did decent in EWC, Won Stage 2. They came 3rd in Stage 1 . Team Liquid, Super Consistent throughout the year. Teams are not getting Fatigue, look at the hype and the news. Everyone's playing, while we have run out of hunger I feel. Threw 2 Finals, I mean we should have the most fire I feel but no. Stage 2 was rough. That Kaajak tweet " Not having fun..." Idk, he is still a rookie. He has to be the most excited ig. Too soon to feel out of gas. It's good that they are on rest. I hope they will come rejuvenated . Idk man. Hope for the best .
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Ozunu-Raizo@Ozunu-Raizo• 29/08/2025
Loading...The biggest issue we have is that we go slowly and wait until last 20 seconds to attack site. On a map like lotus it is very controlled we can’t win by doing that. Teams study us all the time. That’s why we have to have new strats agreed. Mini was great not sure why he left tbh.
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Synd1cate@Synd1cate• 26/08/2025
Loading...As per last 2 matches i dont think we can jump on conclusion, as they really seemed tired
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Pabotokki@Pabotokki• 26/08/2025
Loading...@Synd1cate Actually we were not good on lotus even before toronto. Not only 2 matches
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citrus@citrusthegoat• 25/08/2025
Loading...Yeah i said this a while back, we just get antistratted into hell because we’ve been using it for so long
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yahyayyy@yahyayyy• 25/08/2025
Loading...@citrusthegoat You guys know what's the best thing is ? If they just add layers to their play styles and cook some really nice set pieces of exec and work on their awareness and the awareness of the fact that the teams are aware of where they could be going now. They'll win win Champs. I think if they just add layers in their attack and become a bit nerdy and aware. Because even after Studying FNC they barely beat FNC, these Liquid or Heretics guys are so full of ego, specially their Asst Coach Yao, like bro, FNC have been beating your asses since ages. Have more trophies and International runs than you, Have dominated EMEA almost all the time , so chill. If FNC add layers, in Champs teams don't have time to study and antistrat. They will win Champs. But for that, they need Fire now. I feel like they are just a bit dead atm. I hope not .
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ROVER@knoxrover• 25/08/2025
Loading...They need a break.They have been playing since toronto.Now they have more time for Paris and they should prepare really well.